Debate
So, yesterday I had an interesting dabate with one of Nicholes friends. I will post the log, but he requested that I change his SN so people don't message him.
Thu Feb 16 21:11:05 2006
[09:11 PM and 21s] majestic m00se42: Hello.
[09:11 PM and 28s] Nichole's friend: hi
[09:12 PM and 02s] Nichole's friend: +?
[09:12 PM and 30s] Nichole's friend: or not..
[09:12 PM and 30s] majestic m00se42: Did you forget who I am, again?
[09:12 PM and 44s] Nichole's friend: no. you are billiam.
[09:12 PM and 59s] majestic m00se42: ...
[09:13 PM and 05s] Nichole's friend: willy
[09:13 PM and 08s] majestic m00se42: ...
[09:13 PM and 28s] Nichole's friend: i already told nichole, i refuse to call you william
[09:13 PM and 34s] Nichole's friend: for reasons that i dont have any reason to
[09:13 PM and 42s] majestic m00se42: *sigh*
[09:13 PM and 46s] Nichole's friend: it's just one of those things
[09:14 PM and 07s] xx3nvyxx42: Here, call me envy then.
[09:14 PM and 23s] Nichole's friend: and why would i do that?
[09:14 PM and 33s] xx3nvyxx42: Because, I like that name.
[09:14 PM and 44s] Nichole's friend: ok..
[09:14 PM and 51s] Nichole's friend: so what do ya want?
[09:15 PM and 18s] xx3nvyxx42: I'ono. I haven't talked to you in a while.
[09:15 PM and 26s] Nichole's friend: ah
[09:15 PM and 42s] Nichole's friend: whats the story between you and her now?
[09:15 PM and 54s] xx3nvyxx42: Wha'd'ya' mean?
[09:16 PM and 11s] Nichole's friend: how's things with you and nichole, from your perspective?
[09:16 PM and 30s] xx3nvyxx42: Good. 'Cept we can't see eachother often.
[09:16 PM and 42s] xx3nvyxx42: *each other
[09:17 PM and 00s] Nichole's friend: ah
[09:17 PM and 19s] xx3nvyxx42: What's been up with you?
[09:17 PM and 25s] Nichole's friend: not much
[09:17 PM and 33s] Nichole's friend: just livin the college life
[09:17 PM and 53s] xx3nvyxx42: I hope at least the sky's still up.
[09:18 PM and 03s] Nichole's friend: nope
[09:18 PM and 26s] xx3nvyxx42: Oh? Too bad. When did it fall?
[09:18 PM and 52s] Nichole's friend: about eleventy: eighty four
[09:19 PM and 25s] Nichole's friend: so uhh.. why did you forgive her?
[09:19 PM and 46s] xx3nvyxx42: Because everybody makes mistakes.
[09:21 PM and 21s] xx3nvyxx42: And 'cause I love her too much not to have.
[09:21 PM and 58s] Nichole's friend: *sigh* ok
[09:22 PM and 19s] xx3nvyxx42: What? Not the answer you were looking for?
[09:22 PM and 48s] Nichole's friend: it basicly was
[09:22 PM and 57s] Nichole's friend: but it's your relationship, not mine
[09:23 PM and 27s] xx3nvyxx42: You would've broken up with her, am I right?
[09:23 PM and 54s] Nichole's friend: probably
[09:24 PM and 06s] Nichole's friend: knowing she went back to someone she *keeps* going back to...
[09:24 PM and 27s] Nichole's friend: i'd realize it's a problem that's beeing going on for like a year, and probably isn't completely solved yet
[09:24 PM and 58s] xx3nvyxx42: Yes, but I can help. I want to help.
[09:25 PM and 00s] Nichole's friend: tell her to completely break herself of her affection for him
[09:25 PM and 11s] Nichole's friend: then see what can happen from that point in time
[09:25 PM and 31s] xx3nvyxx42: That would be counter-productive.
[09:26 PM and 06s] Nichole's friend: no
[09:26 PM and 13s] Nichole's friend: that would give her incentive to fix it
[09:26 PM and 31s] Nichole's friend: what you did is basicly say "it's ok to cheat on me, i'll stick with you anyway"
[09:27 PM and 27s] xx3nvyxx42: If I told her that she would break it and I would have to break up with her.
[09:28 PM and 04s] xx3nvyxx42: I'd rather convince her that he's not that good a person and haver her break it off herself.
[09:28 PM and 11s] xx3nvyxx42: *have
[09:28 PM and 51s] Nichole's friend: wait.. that 1st part doesnt make any sense...
[09:29 PM and 40s] xx3nvyxx42: She's still friends with the guy, to tell her to break it off is like telling you never to see your best friend.
[09:30 PM and 02s] xx3nvyxx42: She would anyway and either lie about it or we'd have to break up.
[09:30 PM and 21s] Nichole's friend: "affection" as in the reason for getting sexual with him
[09:30 PM and 27s] Nichole's friend: not as in the reason for hanging out with him
[09:30 PM and 40s] Nichole's friend: affection, not friendshi
[09:30 PM and 41s] Nichole's friend: p
[09:32 PM and 30s] xx3nvyxx42: She has plenty of ability to limit her actions in that regard. She knows what it will cost the nex time.
[09:32 PM and 37s] xx3nvyxx42: *next
[09:38 PM and 28s] Nichole's friend: yea, and she's really shown that ability to limit her actions..
[09:38 PM and 53s] *** You have been disconnected. Thu Feb 16 21:38:53 2006.
[10:07 PM and 41s] *** "Nichole's friend" signed on at Thu Feb 16 22:07:41 2006.
[10:08 PM and 20s] xx3nvyxx42: Ugh, damn network. Anyway, I've found you don't get very far with people if you condemn them after just one mistake.
[10:10 PM and 12s] Nichole's friend: yea... but this isn't her first mistake
[10:10 PM and 25s] Nichole's friend: maybe the first mistake against you
[10:10 PM and 31s] Nichole's friend: but not her first mistake
[10:10 PM and 36s] xx3nvyxx42: Since we've been together it is.... I think...
[10:11 PM and 25s] Nichole's friend: so there's a cutoff to where previous mistakes just dont count?
[10:11 PM and 29s] Nichole's friend: that doesn't make much sense
[10:11 PM and 49s] xx3nvyxx42: She was "single" then. It didn't matter.
[10:12 PM and 19s] Nichole's friend: ...
[10:12 PM and 29s] Nichole's friend: what an excuse...
[10:12 PM and 54s] xx3nvyxx42: Thanks. Anyway, can we continue tomorrow? I'm supposed to go to bed.
[10:12 PM and 59s] Nichole's friend: she was single so she can do things that could be considered wrong, and unhealthy towards her mental(spiritual?) health
[10:13 PM and 02s] Nichole's friend: see ya
[10:13 PM and 53s] xx3nvyxx42: Ttyl.
Thu Feb 16 21:11:05 2006
[09:11 PM and 21s] majestic m00se42: Hello.
[09:11 PM and 28s] Nichole's friend: hi
[09:12 PM and 02s] Nichole's friend: +?
[09:12 PM and 30s] Nichole's friend: or not..
[09:12 PM and 30s] majestic m00se42: Did you forget who I am, again?
[09:12 PM and 44s] Nichole's friend: no. you are billiam.
[09:12 PM and 59s] majestic m00se42: ...
[09:13 PM and 05s] Nichole's friend: willy
[09:13 PM and 08s] majestic m00se42: ...
[09:13 PM and 28s] Nichole's friend: i already told nichole, i refuse to call you william
[09:13 PM and 34s] Nichole's friend: for reasons that i dont have any reason to
[09:13 PM and 42s] majestic m00se42: *sigh*
[09:13 PM and 46s] Nichole's friend: it's just one of those things
[09:14 PM and 07s] xx3nvyxx42: Here, call me envy then.
[09:14 PM and 23s] Nichole's friend: and why would i do that?
[09:14 PM and 33s] xx3nvyxx42: Because, I like that name.
[09:14 PM and 44s] Nichole's friend: ok..
[09:14 PM and 51s] Nichole's friend: so what do ya want?
[09:15 PM and 18s] xx3nvyxx42: I'ono. I haven't talked to you in a while.
[09:15 PM and 26s] Nichole's friend: ah
[09:15 PM and 42s] Nichole's friend: whats the story between you and her now?
[09:15 PM and 54s] xx3nvyxx42: Wha'd'ya' mean?
[09:16 PM and 11s] Nichole's friend: how's things with you and nichole, from your perspective?
[09:16 PM and 30s] xx3nvyxx42: Good. 'Cept we can't see eachother often.
[09:16 PM and 42s] xx3nvyxx42: *each other
[09:17 PM and 00s] Nichole's friend: ah
[09:17 PM and 19s] xx3nvyxx42: What's been up with you?
[09:17 PM and 25s] Nichole's friend: not much
[09:17 PM and 33s] Nichole's friend: just livin the college life
[09:17 PM and 53s] xx3nvyxx42: I hope at least the sky's still up.
[09:18 PM and 03s] Nichole's friend: nope
[09:18 PM and 26s] xx3nvyxx42: Oh? Too bad. When did it fall?
[09:18 PM and 52s] Nichole's friend: about eleventy: eighty four
[09:19 PM and 25s] Nichole's friend: so uhh.. why did you forgive her?
[09:19 PM and 46s] xx3nvyxx42: Because everybody makes mistakes.
[09:21 PM and 21s] xx3nvyxx42: And 'cause I love her too much not to have.
[09:21 PM and 58s] Nichole's friend: *sigh* ok
[09:22 PM and 19s] xx3nvyxx42: What? Not the answer you were looking for?
[09:22 PM and 48s] Nichole's friend: it basicly was
[09:22 PM and 57s] Nichole's friend: but it's your relationship, not mine
[09:23 PM and 27s] xx3nvyxx42: You would've broken up with her, am I right?
[09:23 PM and 54s] Nichole's friend: probably
[09:24 PM and 06s] Nichole's friend: knowing she went back to someone she *keeps* going back to...
[09:24 PM and 27s] Nichole's friend: i'd realize it's a problem that's beeing going on for like a year, and probably isn't completely solved yet
[09:24 PM and 58s] xx3nvyxx42: Yes, but I can help. I want to help.
[09:25 PM and 00s] Nichole's friend: tell her to completely break herself of her affection for him
[09:25 PM and 11s] Nichole's friend: then see what can happen from that point in time
[09:25 PM and 31s] xx3nvyxx42: That would be counter-productive.
[09:26 PM and 06s] Nichole's friend: no
[09:26 PM and 13s] Nichole's friend: that would give her incentive to fix it
[09:26 PM and 31s] Nichole's friend: what you did is basicly say "it's ok to cheat on me, i'll stick with you anyway"
[09:27 PM and 27s] xx3nvyxx42: If I told her that she would break it and I would have to break up with her.
[09:28 PM and 04s] xx3nvyxx42: I'd rather convince her that he's not that good a person and haver her break it off herself.
[09:28 PM and 11s] xx3nvyxx42: *have
[09:28 PM and 51s] Nichole's friend: wait.. that 1st part doesnt make any sense...
[09:29 PM and 40s] xx3nvyxx42: She's still friends with the guy, to tell her to break it off is like telling you never to see your best friend.
[09:30 PM and 02s] xx3nvyxx42: She would anyway and either lie about it or we'd have to break up.
[09:30 PM and 21s] Nichole's friend: "affection" as in the reason for getting sexual with him
[09:30 PM and 27s] Nichole's friend: not as in the reason for hanging out with him
[09:30 PM and 40s] Nichole's friend: affection, not friendshi
[09:30 PM and 41s] Nichole's friend: p
[09:32 PM and 30s] xx3nvyxx42: She has plenty of ability to limit her actions in that regard. She knows what it will cost the nex time.
[09:32 PM and 37s] xx3nvyxx42: *next
[09:38 PM and 28s] Nichole's friend: yea, and she's really shown that ability to limit her actions..
[09:38 PM and 53s] *** You have been disconnected. Thu Feb 16 21:38:53 2006.
[10:07 PM and 41s] *** "Nichole's friend" signed on at Thu Feb 16 22:07:41 2006.
[10:08 PM and 20s] xx3nvyxx42: Ugh, damn network. Anyway, I've found you don't get very far with people if you condemn them after just one mistake.
[10:10 PM and 12s] Nichole's friend: yea... but this isn't her first mistake
[10:10 PM and 25s] Nichole's friend: maybe the first mistake against you
[10:10 PM and 31s] Nichole's friend: but not her first mistake
[10:10 PM and 36s] xx3nvyxx42: Since we've been together it is.... I think...
[10:11 PM and 25s] Nichole's friend: so there's a cutoff to where previous mistakes just dont count?
[10:11 PM and 29s] Nichole's friend: that doesn't make much sense
[10:11 PM and 49s] xx3nvyxx42: She was "single" then. It didn't matter.
[10:12 PM and 19s] Nichole's friend: ...
[10:12 PM and 29s] Nichole's friend: what an excuse...
[10:12 PM and 54s] xx3nvyxx42: Thanks. Anyway, can we continue tomorrow? I'm supposed to go to bed.
[10:12 PM and 59s] Nichole's friend: she was single so she can do things that could be considered wrong, and unhealthy towards her mental(spiritual?) health
[10:13 PM and 02s] Nichole's friend: see ya
[10:13 PM and 53s] xx3nvyxx42: Ttyl.
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